Answer to "Amid Allied Jubilation" topic: 150 Jailed Iraqi children run free as marines roll into Baghdad suburbs

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Dick: here's an answer to your other topic - got to be fair and balanced, you know
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A US marine from the 2nd Batailion 8th Regiment talks with Iraqi children as he patrols in the town of Shumali, 100km south of Baghdad. 100 children held in a prison celebrated their freedom as US marines rolled into northeast Baghdad(AFP/Eric Feferberg)
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The side that Dick is not telling

BAGHDAD (AFP) - More than 100 children held in a prison celebrated their freedom as US marines rolled into northeast Baghdad amid chaotic scenes which saw civilians loot weapons from an army compound, a US officer said.

Around 150 children spilled out of the jail after the gates were opened as a US military Humvee vehicle approached, Lieutenant Colonel Fred Padilla told an AFP correspondent travelling with the Marines 5th Regiment.

"Hundreds of kids were swarming us and kissing us," Padilla said.

"There were parents running up, so happy to have their kids back."

"The children had been imprisoned because they had not joined the youth branch of the Baath party," he alleged. "Some of these kids had been in there for five years."

The children, who were wearing threadbare clothes and looked under-nourished, walked on the streets crossing their hands as if to mimic handcuffs, before giving the thumbs up sign and shouting their thanks.

It was not clear who had opened the doors of the prison.

Civilians also took advantage of the collapse of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s authority to grab weapons from an army base, said Group Sergeant Jeff Treiber.

As marines were alerted by radio that civilians had seized weapons, Treiber warned that anyone seen to be armed could be a target of US-British coalition forces.

"With the weapons they are becoming combatants," said Treiber. "If they don't take the weapons they will be fine."

Other residents stole air conditioning units, television sets and furniture from government buildings in an echo of the looting that was seen in the southern city of Basra.

A 19-year-old called Haider said people had been ransacking government compounds since the morning to steal weapons and furniture.

"Since the morning, nine o'clock, they have been looting. They are stealing weapons and I took three doors," he said.

At one stage the marines opened fire after coming under attack from snipers, leaving at least two civilians wounded.

One man needed treatment for gunshot wounds to his stomach and left arm.

But his friend, Abdul Amir Jaffa, said he did not resent the Americans despite the shooting.

"Americans are coming to free us," he told AFP.


The marines became increasingly edgy as crowds of people took to the streets to observe their progress.

"It's a problem with so many people in the area. Its hard to tell if there are enemy forces among them. You have to be careful returning fire with civilians all over the place," Lieutenant Anthony Sousa said.

Troops from the Marines' 1st Expeditionary Force also entered Baghdad on the east of the city Tuesday as thousands of armoured vehicles and Humvees poured into the capital for a showdown with Saddam Hussein's troops.
 

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Gosh, eek, that's fair and balanced, just like I wanted! Thank you.
 

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BAGHDAD (R) — Ali Ismaeel Abbas, 12, was fast asleep when war shattered his life. A missile obliterated his home and most of his family, leaving him orphaned, badly burned and blowing off both his arms.
"It was midnight when the missile fell on us. My father, my mother and my brother died. My mother was five months pregnant," the traumatised boy told Reuters at Baghdad's Kindi Hospital.

"Our neighbours pulled me out and brought me here. I was unconscious," he said on Sunday.

In addition to the tragedy of losing his parents, he faces the horror of living handicapped. Thinking about his uncertain future he timidly asked whether he could get artificial arms.

"Can you help get my arms back? Do you think the doctors can get me another pair of hands?" Abbas asked. "If I don't get a pair of hands I will commit suicide," he said with tears spilling down his cheeks.

His aunt, three cousins and three other relatives staying with them were also killed in this week's missile strikes on their house in Diala Bridge district east of Baghdad.

"We didn't want war. I was scared of this war," said Abbas. "Our house was just a poor shack, why did they want to bomb us?" said the young boy, unaware that the area in which he lived was surrounded by military installations.

With a childhood lost and a future clouded by disaster and disability, Abbas poured his heart out as he lay in bed with an improvised wooden cage over his chest to stop his burnt flesh touching the bed covers.

"I wanted to become an army officer when I grow up, but not anymore. Now I want to become a doctor, but how can I? I don't have hands," he said.

His aunt, Jamila Abbas, 53, looked after him, feeding him, washing him, comforting him with prayers and repeatedly telling him his parents had gone to heaven.

Daily horror

Abbas' suffering offered one snapshot of the daily horrors afflicting Iraqi civilians in the devastating US-led war on the Arab country.

At the Kindi Hospital, staff were overwhelmed by the sharp rise in casualties since US ground troops moved north to Baghdad on Thursday and intensified their aerial assault.

Ambulance after ambulance raced in with casualties from around the capital. Victim after victim was rushed in, many carried in bed sheets after the stretchers ran out. Doctors struggled to find them beds.

Staff had no time even to clean the blood from trolleys.

Patients' screams and parents' cries echoed across the ward.

With many staff unable to reach the hospital due to the bombing, doctors worked round the clock performing surgery, taking blood, giving injections and ferrying the wounded.

Doctor Osama Saleh Al Duleimi, an orthopaedic surgeon and assistant director at Kindi, said they were overloaded and suffering shortages of anaesthesia, pain killers and staff.

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has been touring hospitals to provide first aid and surgery kits.

"So far hospitals had equipment and medicine to cope but were overwhelmed by the sheer number of casualties coming in at the same time. During fierce bombardment, hospitals received up to 100 casualties per hour," ICRC spokesman Roland Huguenin-Benjamin told Reuters on Sunday.

He said hospitals were well-organised and were so far coping, but voiced concern in case the fighting dragged on.

Worst casualties

Doctors who treated Iraqi victims of two previous wars say they are taken aback by the injuries they have seen. Most suffered massive trauma and fatal wounds, including head, abdominal and limb injuries from lethal weapons, they said.

"I've been a doctor for 25 years and this is the worst I've seen in terms of the number of casualties and fatal wounds," said Duleimi, 48, who witnessed the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war and the 1991 Gulf War over Kuwait.

"This is a disaster because they're attacking civilians. We are receiving a lot of civilian casualties," he added.

Washington says it has tried to minimise civilian casualties but doctors insist many of the victims are civilians caught in aerial and artillery bombardment.

There is no independent figure for casualties but hospital sources put them at hundreds of dead and thousands of wounded.

"This war is more destructive than all the previous wars. In the previous battles, the weapons seemed merely disabling; now they're much more lethal," Doctor Sadek Al Mukhtar said.

"Before the war I did not regard America as my enemy. Now I do. There are the military and there are the civilians. War should be against the military. America is killing civilians."

Monday, April 7, 2003


http://www.jordantimes.com/mon/news/news4.htm
 

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The west is only showing the nice bits.
The middle east is only showing the nasty bits.

So I think that nobody is keeping it fair and balanced Jazz.


I hope its all worth it, cos the rest of the world didn't think it was, only the USA.


Two wrongs dont make a right.
Never have, never will.
Enjoy your cheap gas Jazz.
 

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Yup, i have no problem with that picture, if it's actually true. I've said before it's a terrible part of war, but it is unavoidable and the coalition is having unprecedented success in avoiding the killing of civilians. But it WILL happen, and showing the images in a balanced way doesn't threaten me at all. Won't stop me from supporting the war, though.

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eek, that poor kid was beaten by Saddam's thugs after being seen taking some food & water from the Allied Forces.

Very sad...
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Ali Ismaeel Abbas, 12, was fast asleep when war shattered his life. A missile obliterated his home and most of his family, leaving him orphaned, badly burned and blowing off both his arms.

I think the press and the Pentagon call this "winning hearts and minds".
 

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You focus in on that radio, and then use that as your reason for being against the war, and that's fine. Me, sorry it happened, just like I'm sorry about the thousands upon thousands of innocent children orphaned, tortured or killed by Saddam's regime. I'm sure many more will be orphaned as a result of the US killing one helluva lot of the regime's fighters, but then their fathers made that choice, or were forced into that choice by Saddam.

Either way, spare a hug for them, too.
 
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jazz, i must say that i admire your highbrow, condescending tone..but you missed my point.

Read radio's other posts...
 

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radio, you've misread my tone - again - it was facetious, just like yours, and not condescending - are you referring to yourself now in the 3rd person or did you mean someone else?
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